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Two years ago, presenting your plan of social cohesion, you draw a very pessimistic report on French society. Have things really changed

We are out of the vicious circle of the spiral of unemployment and assistance when the social cohesion plan began last year, to give her any. To enrich the content of jobs growth, it has responded to two needs: on the one hand, to adapt to the society of alternating because life is a succession of periods of employment and training; on the other hand, operate the deposit of the jobs of service to the person. In a rapidly changing society, where the supply and demand of labour are struggling to meet, it should also strengthen the public service of employment. Single file is in place, the stop is be generalized, the unemployed are now received each month. The effectiveness of custom tracking is no longer to show: the benefit of a convention for custom reclassification reduces by half the time to find a job. The development of learning is another example of adaptation in road to the society of the alternation. We'll get to 500,000 apprentices ahead of schedule.

What balance do you plan of development of services to the person

First, it must be measuring the new economy, is not only high-tech jobs, they are also the new jobs of proximity. This implies two things: reduce massively the hourly cost when a delivery is 3 euros, the final cost for the user is no longer that of 1 euro and free offer. The reform of the procedure for the approval of human service providers allowed the formation of large signs, guarantee of quality. Moved from 5.600 operators in February to 9.700 today. And in six months, what are already some 3.6 million employees who will be able to benefit from aid in their business during the purchase of universal employment-service cheque. The turnover of securities restaurant came to EUR 3.5 billion in forty years, it will take three or four years to get there with the Cesu. The revolution is underway.

You did not discuss contracts helped, who were yet measures leading in terms of employment of your plan...

The purpose was never again young jobs or unemployment social treatment. The social cohesion plan contracts contributed to the change of model, not by their number but because they are more parking jobs. It contracts that combine employment and training and to strengthen our economic potential.

Will the decline in the unemployment register permanently on this rate

I said that it would be less than 9 after the summer, it is confirmed. Even if we are not in the shelter, one month, of a bad figure. It look heavy tendency, which is a decrease in unemployment of 25,000 to 30,000 per month, while the monthly increase was 20,000 end of 2004. Reversal occurred in February 2005, and the decline is accelerating for three months. Activating all the levers of the cohesion plan social learning, service, housing... , our goal is to create 300,000 jobs over the next 12 months. I am convinced that our country can return to an unemployment rate of 7 at the end of the social cohesion plan, regardless of the growth.

The growth is perhaps for something...

Yes, of course, but if growth creates employment, employment also creates it growth. The social cohesion plan greatly contributes to this growth. The unprecedented stimulus is now one of its main engines, with services to the person.

What is the effect of the contract new hires

It is undeniable and highly effective particularly for companies with less than three employees, because it has served as a spark. Recruitment for these companies is such an universe that the CNE is really adapted to their change. The Prime Minister, with this measure, really released the brakes to hiring for these very small firms.

In some sectors, companies are struggling to recruit. These tensions are not likely to curb the decline in unemployment

I do not think, because job creation will primarily be in services to the person, an area well distributed on the territory and accessible to all via short courses. The modernization of the public employment service will also allow a better meeting of supply and demand. There is certainly tension, as in the building today, where the turnaround has been brutal. But large companies in this sector have already recruited 47,000 people and the small almost as much. They will continue to do so.

Should be more policy with unemployed

The fundamental problem of the French system is not, and we are the proving. Social cohesion Act changed the rules on the control of the unemployed and this did not change the rate of radiation. The important thing is to offer high level benefits, to move from an administrative management of unemployment to the management of human resources.

The number of minimum social beneficiaries has increased since June 2004...

In some departments, 15 of the beneficiaries of the RMI are already in contract for the future. It is the evidence that things done, even if they are still counted in the beneficiaries of minimum social. In addition, in the 1st quarter of 2006, the number of RMI declined 0.8.

The plan was to cost EUR 12.8 billion over five years. This test was more raised, on the other hand, for example, laws of military programming...

Our investment in urban renewal, in now our efforts for employment has increased. It is really an apparent expense, because it is a real investment return is huge for the country, in terms of growth as in terms of social and tax revenue.